[ a laugh comes from somewhere else in the den, followed by 'legolas', murmured quietly, followed by the sound of running water. ]
Okay. You shut up. You listen. Because that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying the waves suddenly don't exist if someone isn't around. What I'm saying is that WE are what translates the vibrations into an actual sound. So a tree falls in the woods. The motion still vibrates the molecules in the air. But if there isn't something around to process and translate the vibration into something else:
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to perceive it as something else other than molecules getting a massage, does it make a sound, or is it just vibrations?
Let's say I'm in your hypothetical dark room and I'm alone and no one else has been inside of it. Let's say I don't move, so I don't interact with anything that may or may not be in the room. Until I personally come in contact with something else, it's Shrodinger's Room, right? I can't know something exists in the room until I have interacted with it in some way.
If you go into this room, and you see everything, and then you come back and tell me "hey, there's a bunch of junk in that room I was just in". I haven't seen it, but you have. You were still there to interact with all that junk. There was still some kind of interaction. If nobody goes in the room, ever. How do we know anything exists at all in the room?
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Okay. You shut up. You listen.
Because that's not what I'm saying.
I'm not saying the waves suddenly don't exist if someone isn't around.
What I'm saying is that WE are what translates the vibrations into an actual sound.
So a tree falls in the woods.
The motion still vibrates the molecules in the air.
But if there isn't something around to process and translate the vibration into something else:
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to perceive it as something else other than molecules getting a massage, does it make a sound, or is it just vibrations?
Let's say I'm in your hypothetical dark room and I'm alone and no one else has been inside of it. Let's say I don't move, so I don't interact with anything that may or may not be in the room. Until I personally come in contact with something else, it's Shrodinger's Room, right? I can't know something exists in the room until I have interacted with it in some way.
If you go into this room, and you see everything, and then you come back and tell me "hey, there's a bunch of junk in that room I was just in". I haven't seen it, but you have. You were still there to interact with all that junk. There was still some kind of interaction. If nobody goes in the room, ever. How do we know anything exists at all in the room?
Do you want water?