No. I knew that's what you were saying. I just didn't have a counterpoint and had to make some bullshit up. Debate 101, babe.
[ actually "babe" is kind of-- he's never called stiles anything like babe, and now that it's out there, it's kind of weird. maybe bro-y? "babe". jesus, okay, he could spiral over this. he sits up in bed and changes topic before that happens. ]
I just think it's arrogant to say that sounds can only be sounds if we define them as sounds through our own physical translation of airwave vibrations. Pistol shrimp can see a fuckton of colours. Those colours are still there, even if I can't see them. Sounds are still sounds. That's my point. Vibrations are the sound. The word "sound" might just be our way of explaining the phenomenon of those vibrations interacting with us, but those vibrations exist outside of that? We're not the fucking King Lords of Sound Perception. Things still exist even without our influence. If everyone was deaf - if everyone was alone in the dark in Schrodingers room - sounds would still exist, we just wouldn't have a word for them. We wouldn't necessarily say the word "sound" if it was impossible for us to perceive the vibrations in the air. But. It's. Okay. Hold on.
Hold on. Okay. Waveforms. You speak into a microphone, you see your voice translated into waveforms. You'd call that a visual representation of sound, right? Not a visual representation of vibrating airwaves. If you put on headphones, spoke into a microphone, didn't hear yourself speak and didn't play the recording back - you'd look at the waveforms and think - "that's proof of sound". Even before you'd perceived it or interpreted it or anything like that. Right? It's. Sound is sound. Sound is sound? Sound is sound and trees make sounds. If you record a tree falling in the woods, see the waveform and don't listen to the recording, you have proof of a sound. It's still a sound. That's a sound. You don't have to hear it for it to be a sound. It's sound. I'm right. You're not telling me I'm right. Tell me I'm right.
No. Wait. What time is it? Is it too late to order food?
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Debate 101, babe.
[ actually "babe" is kind of-- he's never called stiles anything like babe, and now that it's out there, it's kind of weird. maybe bro-y? "babe". jesus, okay, he could spiral over this. he sits up in bed and changes topic before that happens. ]
I just think it's arrogant to say that sounds can only be sounds if we define them as sounds through our own physical translation of airwave vibrations.
Pistol shrimp can see a fuckton of colours.
Those colours are still there, even if I can't see them.
Sounds are still sounds.
That's my point.
Vibrations are the sound. The word "sound" might just be our way of explaining the phenomenon of those vibrations interacting with us, but those vibrations exist outside of that? We're not the fucking King Lords of Sound Perception.
Things still exist even without our influence. If everyone was deaf - if everyone was alone in the dark in Schrodingers room - sounds would still exist, we just wouldn't have a word for them. We wouldn't necessarily say the word "sound" if it was impossible for us to perceive the vibrations in the air. But. It's.
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on. Okay.
Waveforms. You speak into a microphone, you see your voice translated into waveforms.
You'd call that a visual representation of sound, right? Not a visual representation of vibrating airwaves.
If you put on headphones, spoke into a microphone, didn't hear yourself speak and didn't play the recording back - you'd look at the waveforms and think - "that's proof of sound".
Even before you'd perceived it or interpreted it or anything like that. Right?
It's. Sound is sound. Sound is sound? Sound is sound and trees make sounds. If you record a tree falling in the woods, see the waveform and don't listen to the recording, you have proof of a sound. It's still a sound. That's a sound. You don't have to hear it for it to be a sound. It's sound.
I'm right. You're not telling me I'm right.
Tell me I'm right.
No.
Wait.
What time is it? Is it too late to order food?